Group orientation

So as our lvl 2 class, one of us needs to take cleric or sorc so this group has some magic...any volunteers? I was thinking cleric might be fun for alterith, but if someone else is willing, I'll carry on the combat monster with a lvl of fighter (for the bonus feats). Ideas?

Hmm ... I had originally planned to go through all 6 centaur monster levels before taking a regular class. (Leaning heavily towards bard - one class I'm curious about that I haven't played extensively).

Cleric needs: Wis, Cha
Wizard needs: Int, Wis?
Sorc needs: Cha, Int?

If David allows us to stock up regularly on healing potions we may be able to go with out a cleric. If we have other magical potions and items we might be able to make do without a spellcaster. A spellcaster and cleric makes a group much better, but (with DM's help/leniency) a group without all the "basic" classes (Fighter, healer, rogue/skills, spellcaster) can survive. It'll just be quite a bit more interesting and challenging.

I suppose I could take take one of those classes, especially since I seem to have the stats for it. I've been told its more challenging but more fun to have a non-standard group since the play style will be different due to the group's strengths and weaknesses. I am curious to try it, though I am also willing to take a class and modify my plans if the will help the group and story move along better. A plan is not a path, its a guideline not set in stone.

No spellcasting, an interesting yet tough challenge.
No true melee, a different set of challenges. (Thinking guerrilla warfare).

Ok, edited because i found where the groups got decided. Yeah, that sucks that we don't have a caster at all. I don't know anything about skythar, and i'm quite curious as to whether he's actually gonna play or not. I know jack was busy with school and stuff, but he still hasn't even registered for the forums. Also, I highly suggest that you multi-class squin from the start if you wanna be a bard. Bards in general benefit from multi-classing of all varieties depending on what the party needs. Plus, if you were a bard, you'd gain some sneaking abilities, as well as healing and other fun keep us safe spells.

The only real drawback to going bard, is then you'd have to go back and forth on your class levels like i'm having to do with my drow character. this level, i basically have to take drow, else i'll suffer xp loss.

So right..... Jack, what are you plans?

David, make him sign up and log on please :)

also, if he is no longer interested, i'm sure i can find a friend to join us. and i'll just pressure him into spellcasting :)

dude, andy. Jack is skythar.

Because of the nature of the adventuring group changes, Mystia will never join this group. Also, since we were not exactly notified about the potential split during character creation, rest assured that this will be countered (a little) by the fact that healing potions will probably be more readily available than in other adventures. (this is solely based on my experiences with Jerry being DM earlier in my D20 career). With that being said, pretty much if you guys play smart, you can make do with what I give you. Things should not get dicey to the point where serious gp needs to be shelled out. Although, this *will* be the first time I DM, so I'll most likely err towards keeping you guys alive <3

yes, i know jack is skythar. but what i also know, is that there is nobody on the members page listed as jack OR skythar. I was merely asking you to pester him until that gets changed :)


And rock on the keeping us alive part. If we were in jerry's campaign, i'm sure he'd be trying to kill us :)

^^;;

also andy....
https://amurizon.rpg-board.net/memberlist.forum?mode=lastvisit&order=DESC&username=&start=10

it might behoove you to click the 2nd page link.

hikaritenchi wrote:

^^;;

also andy....
https://amurizon.rpg-board.net/memberlist.forum?mode=lastvisit&order=DESC&username=&start=10

it might behoove you to click the 2nd page link.

lol

As to the multi-classing, isn't there a penalty for that? I don't know if bard is a favored class, thus the possibility of a penalty. After finishing the centaur progression, its levels don't count towards multi-class xp penalties. Looks like I'm going to have to talk to Jerry. Time to spam his inbox. :D

Ohes..... woops.

The way multiclassing works, is if the classes you are multiclassing in are 1 level apart, there is no penalty. so for instance, if i choose to take one level of rogue, and 2 levels of fighter, there would be no penalty (assuming i was an elf and not a drow) however, if i take a 3rd level of fighter before i take a level of rogue, i suffer multiclassing penalties. so with you, if you go straight centaur, you'll never suffer penalties, because your monster class level no longer counts after you are a full centaur. However, if you become a level 3 centaur and then suddenly decide you wanna take some bard, you'll be a level 3 centaur/level 1 bard at level 4 and suffer multiclassing penalties.

What i'm doing, is level 0 drow/level 1 ninja, level 1 drow level 1 ninja, level 1 drow level 2 ninja, full drow/level 2 ninja, level 3 ninja --> level 18 ninja

EDIT:

Oh, and to favored class, it merely means that you don't need to count that in for your penalties. for example, a (male) drow's favored class is wizard. Say I'm a level 10 ninja, and i feel i could really use a few level 1 spells per day to help round me up. If i take wizard next level, i'd be a level 1 wizard, level 10 ninja, which would usually cause multiclassing penalties. However, since wizard is a favored class, i don't suffer any.

I thought bard was an actual class...he doesn't need to make his own bard, like he doesn't need lvls in fighter, thief and wizard...the bard class has bits and pieces from each class. It has the skills and sneaking of a thief, the combat skills of the fighter and the spell casting from a mage, but he has all those skills reduced by about a third...a jack of all trades, master of none. I don't know if they've changed that in 3e though And I really don't think I can go cleric (though the image really amused me...picture, crazy barbarian hacking left and right then healing himself, then continuing the blood shed...maybe healing a fallen enemy so he can fell him again if he runs out of targets before his rage wears off) because my stats are really fighter oriented this time (I rarely create this type of character, I'm usually more contrary, but oh well I'd have the same problem going wizard...but I'm willing to take a lvl of either class if it is necessary (but I will be incurring penalties later on since it would be pointless to continue leveling that class. I should just take 1 lvl in every class so I have like 20 different classes but no penalty because they would all be the same lvl

did I make it seem like bards have to multiclass? if so, sorry, i didn't mean it that way.

I also agree. Ben, you should go straight barbarian unless you want to find a prestige class to play with (Frenzied Berzerker? )

Although i COULD get some levels in cleric, it would seriously hamper my character's concept. Though i could get some levels in wizard at some point. that point will have to be after level 5 though.

Bard has some healing spells, though unfortunately they do not get them until either level 2 or 3 depending on the character's cha modifier. We should also see what Jack is intending on doing....

hmm ... centaur has 6 levels of progression. Thus it'll take a little longer. Also, at either the 4th or 5th level the centaur becomes a large creature instead of medium. Level 2 of centaur gets +2 Dex, +2 Con. I gain 1 hp since I don't get an extra hit die. Oh yeah, no skill points On the other hand, taking a level of bard or cleric or (spellcaster) gives me another hit die, some skills points, but no stat bonuses.

Seems to me the centaur gets "natural" bonuses, like stat points, at the expense of skill points. Interesting.

heh, good job to Jerry for splitting you guys up this way. Also, remember that Jerry has this house rule, which is as follows.

When you level up, you don't automatically get your skills and feats and stats and whatnot. You'll have to "train" under a master for a period of time (a month or so?) until you actually acquire your skills. I don't know how this would actually work for monster progressions, but it would make sense that characters wouldn't spontaneously know how to cast fireball when they reach a certain level. Or, for a warrior multiclassing in cleric, it'd be weird for them to randomly know how to cast a cure minor wounds spell. At least roleplaying out the "training" gives your character a bit of legitimacy in that regard.

So when deciding these things, keep that in mind. Also, I might have a friend coming to join us, so he'll be in your group. I'll coerce him into playing a cleric or spellcaster if he joins xDDD

Good plan sir! And Jack's character and I are training in the forest right now so that we can be better. I assume that we're training at night, and i'm using all of my dark elf instincts and such to make me a better person. (IE a level 1 drow, since i'm already a level 1 ninja). So there ya go to satisfy his house rule. Plus, we could always vote the rule down in your "house rules" section when we don't wanna worry about it in the future. I can't confirm this obviously, but I'm assuming the rule is so that you can't level up in dungeon.

Good times.

do recall that jerry leveled us a all up and specifically stated that we weren't using his house rule for this level, though I could be wrong. I agree that roleplaying the leveling process offers a wealth of opportunity for legitimizing the levels, however, I could easily give you reasons why my barbarian suddenly can cast magic missile, or why he is a cleric, or any other multi-class I could choose...ie, Alterith is a kind hearted individual (cleric, or he could be a focused individual who wants to break the bonds of his former captivity by learning to read-wizard, or he finds a God to help calm his wildness-sorc) then there is Bloodlust, his rampaging, raging, barbarian of an alter-ego But either way, I'll probably end up going with another lvl in barbarian...thief is all I can take without xp penalty anyway, and that really won't help me at all..stupid halflings, they're useless.

I can just see it, halfling creeps up behind target, then backstabs with a great axe...oh yeah, 1d10x3

assuming that you are currently a level 2 barbarian, any class you take next level won't receive a multiclassing penalty, because you'd then be a level 1 class and level 2 barbarian. 1 level difference, so no xp penalty.

yes, I'm aware of that, but if I continued to lvl barbarian after that without lvling the other class, I'd be f*cked

true.

I just had a thought. Didn't Skythar act as a translator for Krytox? I see bad things in communication in that party's future.....

Hehehe ... Krytox does have basic common commands. Complex stuff was translated by Skythar.

You're acting as if he ever said anything we needed to hear j/k alex, but since you can't respond here :D

lmfao

apparently jerry has already modified the permissions so that you guys can't post in Jerry's subforum, and they can't post in ours. so I made a common one. Since jerry's gonna be gone for a while anyways, I thought it wouldn't hurt.

IIRC, everyone can speak common in this group. y'all had no problems understanding Skythar when he bothered to talk, anyways. not that y'all paid any attention to his words, though.

uhhhhh so i don't have access to the new forum you created sir. you might want to work on your permissions......

the common OOC thread? I can't modify permissions...

I am not allowed to post replies to the common thread you created as well.

fk dat.