OOC - Out Of Character

am i not allowed to give a potion to an unconscious character? that's what i wanted to do originally. I'm stable and do not need it, since the battle is over.

Um...in what world did you read the battle was over?

see-raptor, lightning lizard.

and angry god? haha

oh, right. well, still, same question. I wanted to give the potion to krytox. i don't really need it. sorry, i haven't had any sleep yet.

My guess would be that Jerry just misinterpreted what you were intending. Hopefully he reads these and will know you weren't getting the potion for yourself. You might also want to send him a private message.

in the end, i guess it doesn't matter. Squin can just hurl me over the crevasse and everything'll be set....lol;;

it'll take me a few rounds to actually get there, so...lol;;

you could totally make it across the gap in one round. assuming that a jump check is included in your movement. even if your base movement is 20ft, you could use a full action to run x3 or x4. if you're the gray dot, it looks to me like it would be 10 squares equivalent of movement (3 diagonal = 4 standard?) to get to the fissure and then you could jump it. 10 squares = 50 feet < 20 ft (x3 move). info found on page 162/163 of the PHB.

not saying you need to do this, just saying that it's possible. of course, you wouldn't be able to do anything else as a x3 or x4 run is a full action from what i understand.

don't you have to run in a straight line to take advantage of that? And did everyone see this lizard thing? or just me. The post said i saw it, but it didn't mention anyone else, so now i'm just confused.....

Yes, in order to run x3 or x4 the path must be in a straight line.


Technically, not everyone has seen the lightning lizard yet, but it doesn't provoke surprise, so basically any of you guys can "choose to notice it" whenever you want to and add it in as flavor text.


Need a Dexterity check from The Traveler to administer the potion to Krytox. PM please, thanks.

RaSa wrote:

don't you have to run in a straight line to take advantage of that?

ah! good catch andrew. i forgot about that aspect.

Yes I've seen the lightning lizard. Saw it when we first entered the room, and since it ran away at that time I figured that Holg and his raptor-lizard was more of a threat than the hiding lightning lizard. Thus I ignored it at that time.

that's why you take the feat fleet of foot when you play a speed monk in 3.0.... then you can make 90 degree turns without slowing down at x5 speed, which is already ridiculous :)

(30 + 60 speed bonus + 5 dash feat bonus) x 5 = 475 feet per round at level 18. Then get a caster buddy to cast expeditious retreat on you (3.0 it doubles your speed) and you're going at 950 ft/round. now, each round is 6 seconds of time. imagine being able to run a mile in 33.34 seconds :) you'd be running roughly 108 miles per hour.... no wonder they nerfed Expeditious retreat in 3.5....

Snaphin wrote:

Yes I've seen the lightning lizard. Saw it when we first entered the room, and since it ran away at that time I figured that Holg and his raptor-lizard was more of a threat than the hiding lightning lizard. Thus I ignored it at that time.

Classic example as to why you should ALWAYS shoot first and ask questions later.

RaSa wrote:

Classic example as to why you should ALWAYS shoot first and ask questions later.

2 points:
1. Shoot first? Of course I shot first. It was just, which one did I want to shoot first? After shooting at Holg, I was passing a potion over to our (maybe not yours) badly hurt allies. Haven't had a chance to go back to search for it.

2. If we subscribed to that philosophy, earlier when you guys stumbled across Mystia's hut and we shot first and ask questions later, you'll either be playing a porcupine (or gelatinous blob) or a new character.

idk about that one, we had bloodlust on our side, and two sneaky characters. we would have all gotten a shot at you before you had the chance. that and you were already slightly injured from the gnoll if i remember it correctly....

Yeah, read carefully ... I just said you, not the others. If we had a lizardman on our side, we wouldn't automatically attack a lizardman because obviously we already have the experience (however recent) that they are helpful. Attacking a child (albeit one that can kill me in his sleep) is just in our repertoire. Shooting shady looking dark elves on the other hand ... ... :D

lol...a not about the straight line...running diagonally on the map would still be considered a "straight" line. It isn't like you run to the right 5' then run up 5' then run to the right then up then to the right, etc. You are running in a single direction, the reason it takes 2 movement then 1 then 2 then 1 is because the diagonal of the square is a greater distance then the height or width, therefor it takes more movement to reach it. For the purposes of running, however, you can still perform a full round run action while using the diagonal movement. You can't run when the corridor makes a turn, or you find a corner, or you have to dodge around some obstruction. But if you have a clear route, you can use your run straight, diagonal or backwards

true, but i think mystia is the one farther back into the room with the crates. depending on the definition of diagonal (is it just any diagonal line, or does it have to be through the corner of the square) is what would make it questionable if she could make it. the other thing would be the question of obstructions - does Rasa count as an obstruction? the fissure? hard to say. but you are right about the fact that a straight line could be diagonal as well. i guess the real question is, how much of a stickler for rules is the dm when a question like this comes up?

yeah..... she wouldn't be able to run in a straight line at all, unless passwall is a spell she somehow has and can use at an instant.

RaSa wrote:

yeah..... she wouldn't be able to run in a straight line at all, unless passwall is a spell she somehow has and can use at an instant.

huh? i think that depending on the rules she could totally run in a straight line. look:

Boomerwang wrote:

if she is the pink circle, you could draw a line - through the doorway - to the square with the traveler (purple circle i think). the question is - does a diagonal straight line have to go through the corner of a square with regards to movement? see what i mean? of course, no clip mode would help quite a bit, haha.

It wouldn't matter which square you entered for the straight line, but every diagonal square of movement would adjust the number of squares as stated in the diagonal equation.

there would be no 'diagonal' movement as defined by the diagonal-move rules. if you were to travel in a 'straight' line from F16 to J4, you'd move up-up-over-up-up-up-up-over-up-up-up-over-up-up-up-up-over. as far as i can tell, none of them would be diagonal. this is why i'm not sure the rules allow such a move using the 'straight-line method'. i think you'd have to just count that as 17 x 5 = 85 feet of movement. which for most people would be ~x3 or x4 move. meh, it's probably a moot point anyway. i think it depends on the interpretation of the rules and what they were meant to allow.

its not a matter of what she would actually move, its just a way of counting, up up diagonal-upright, up, up, diagonal, diagonal, up, up, jump, etc. Basically for calculating the movement you first determine if there is a straight line between them and their destination (line of sight works). If there is, they can run, if not then they can't. Then you plot the movement to that location using the least amount of movement to get there. If that involves diagonal squares then you use the diagonal move rules which can save you movement, but may cost you movement too. Basically you pick where you are going, then figure out how much move you need to get there. You aren't actually going to run forward forward, then jump to the right, then run forward then run diagonally. You are running in a straight line, but your calculation for how far you can go is easier if you just count blocks

exactly.

oh, she's the pink one isn't she..... i guess she could as long as she could run through me....

what color was everyone again? jerry is no longer putting up the color code key, and i don't remember.

alterith = orange
traveler = purple
krytox = dark green
mystia = pink
squin = light blue
rasa = gray
skythar = blue
random = light green

i think that's right... based on my memory of where people are in this battle.